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Kinja'd!!! "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
05/03/2018 at 17:48 • Filed to: Peugeot 305

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Peugeot time! Two 305s, first and second gen, spot the differences (which were more extensive than they look, as they were mainly mechanical).

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Kinja'd!!! kanadanmajava1 > Cé hé sin
05/03/2018 at 18:54

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The 1st style still used the funky gearbox-in-the-oilpan design inherited from 204/304 models. I guess many suspension parts were also shared.


Kinja'd!!! duurtlang > kanadanmajava1
05/04/2018 at 03:26

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I didn’t know Peugeot had another series of gearbox-in-the-oilpan engines. I own an early 205 which has such a design as well, inherited from the 104. They don’t seem to be related to the engine/transmission in the 305 though. 


Kinja'd!!! Cé hé sin > duurtlang
05/04/2018 at 05:00

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Yes, the 305 began life as being based on the 204/304 running gear which meant that it couldn’t have a five speed box (no space) so they decided to go conventional which allowed a five speed (and a ZF automatic) and their new XUD diesel.


Kinja'd!!! kanadanmajava1 > duurtlang
05/04/2018 at 05:36

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These engines share the oilpan mounted gearbox feature but they are quite different. I guess the engine compartment design of the 204 couldn’t be easily recycled for other purposes very well and the low profile version was developed. A 204 engine/transmission package is very tall but very compact in other dimensions. As it is the older of these two it didn’t get 5th gear.


Kinja'd!!! duurtlang > Cé hé sin
05/04/2018 at 05:40

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Interesting that they couldn’t fit a 5th gear to the 1.3 and 1.5 liter XL/XR engines, while my gearbox-in-the-oilpan 1.4 liter X-engine equipped 205 does have a 5th gear. In a smaller car. 


Kinja'd!!! Cé hé sin > duurtlang
05/04/2018 at 07:19

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That’s interesting. I only guessed that a five speed wouldn’t fit based on five speed conversions for the original Mini being difficult so maybe they just wanted an automatic.